In this episode, Catherine and Sean discuss various topics ranging from personal updates to the decline of high design in branding. They delve into the recent controversy surrounding Cracker Barrel's logo change, exploring themes of nostalgia and emotional connections in branding. The conversation shifts to the trend of simplicity in design, reflecting on how societal changes influence design choices. The episode concludes with trivia questions related to construction and design, emphasizing the cyclical nature of trends and the importance of thoughtful design in architecture and personal spaces.

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