💡In this episode of Hard Refresh, host Caden Hutchens is flying solo and sitting down with the powerhouse behind WootRecruit and Sell Convert Clean—Libby DeLucien. From scaling residential cleaning during COVID to building multiple SaaS brands, Libby shares how to avoid tech overload, reduce operational friction, and build smarter systems before you buy the software.If you’ve ever said “we’ll fix it with tech,” this one’s for you.In This Episode:🔹 Quick Control:August 26 Webinar: What Does Best-in-Class Building Retention Look Like? – Led by Gerald Fong (BrightGo) and guestsNext CLX Event: September 23 — AI for Customer Relationship Management (digital learning experience)🔹 Clear Cache:AI-generated roast: KPIs in your coffee, CVS-length email signatures, and moreWhy cleaning companies are actually “SaaS businesses in disguise”The trap of solving every problem with softwareLibby’s "tech stack house cleaning" method for reducing bloatWhy you should build your process first—on paper—before choosing toolsFrom chaos :arrow_right: order :arrow_right: automation: The right sequence for scalingHow Sell Convert Clean turned from a web quoting tool into a quoting systemProactive vs. reactive automation: Don’t just fix problems—prevent them💬 “Don’t automate chaos. Get clear on what you’re doing, why, and who it’s for—then go shopping for software.”🎧 Subscribe & Follow Hard Refresh on Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.Connect with the Host & Guest:Caden Hutchens – https://www.linkedin.com/in/caden-hutchens/Libby DeLucien – https://www.linkedin.com/in/libbydelucien/

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