Pam shares how she was at the birth of her grandson and the impact it had on her. She didn’t want to be called Grandmother because it sounded old and opted for Nannie after his birth. Pam admits that she’s a soft grandmother, which she feels she might need to change as gets older. She shares how her grandson has developed a love for Bob Marley videos and his granddad’s hats - his ‘mini me’. During the recording Pam became emotional when sharing how the early loss of her own mother impacted her and influenced her the drive to become the grandmother she is.

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