I'm talking with one of my favorite people in the world about a bunch of interesting topics ranging from old tech, new promises, and platforms of argument and despair to the traits of makers, the search for clarity and ownership in a digital world, and perhaps the biggest question of all: What kind of world do we want to live in? Christopher Butler is the Chief Design Officer at Newfangled and Magnolia. He writes extensively on his website, which I've linked to in the show notes at gwtw.co/805, about his desire "to learn, make and improve things, write, discuss ideas, and just observe." He is an encourager, a challenger, and one hell of a conversationalist.

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