Ryan Obier, drummer in CHAINTWIST, returns to the show for his 4th appearance to chat about starting bands in Chili's, finding band members on Craigslist, the unique stressors of headlining, playing shows to ten people, the value of being in a niche community, and so much more - enjoy!I also buy my first car live on air - that's not a sentence I ever expected to say.Support Ryan:Chaintwist //  https://www.instagram.com/chaintwist_/Instagram // https://www.instagram.com/ryan_obier/0:00 Ryan's 4th Appearance!1:52 CHAINTWIST Show at The Cave 8/3/245:35 Starting a Band in Chili's9:10 Reality of Networking14:57 Ryan's Pop Punk Background16:58 Starting a Band on Craigslist24:45 Process of Booking a Show29:40 Stress of Headlining35:03 The Role of the Crowd41:18 My First Photo Pass44:36 Watching One Band Member50:59 What Motivates You?56:36 Buying a Car Mid-Podcast59:00 We Need Secrets1:05:24 Follow Ryan!!In the music industry, or just curious about how things work behind the scenes? Join host Peter J-T as he hangs out with creatives to share stories of success and laugh at the mishaps that (inevitably) happen along the way. Musicians, photographers, videographers, producers, designers - we can learn something From Everyone.Follow Peter on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/peterjtmedia/https://www.peterjt.com/

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