In this episode of Finding Freedom on the Lions of Liberty Podcast Network, host John Odermatt dives into the future of the conservative movement, asking whether "Make America Great Again" (MAGA) or "Make America Healthy Again" (MAHA) will define the next era. John explores the wins, losses, and promises of both movements, reflecting on the shifting priorities within American politics and culture. He discusses the grassroots rise of MAHA, the evolving MAGA coalition, and the growing distrust of big institutions. The episode also covers the impact of health freedom, the role of RFK Jr., and the intersection of wellness trends with political identity. John shares personal insights, market shifts, and the challenges facing both movements. Ultimately, he argues that health is the new battleground for freedom and that the side able to embrace MAHA will shape the future. Tune in for a thought-provoking analysis of where America is headed.

Chapters:00:00 – Introduction & Episode Overview03:53 – Show Theme: MAGA vs. MAHA04:53 – Sponsor: Fox and Sons Coffee05:21 – MAGA Movement: Promises & Performance11:01 – MAHA Movement: Origins & Growth14:08 – Wins & Losses: MAGA and MAHA Compared16:01 – Trump’s Campaign Promises: Grading the Results27:31 – Vaccine Transparency & Health Policy40:41 – Political Mobilization & Market Trends45:41 – Food System Reform & Wellness Industry50:03 – The Future: Health, Freedom, and Political Change55:35 – Final Thoughts & Community Shoutouts

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