In Episode 48, "Con or Bust," Elizabeth and Flourish talk to Diana Pho, a Tor editor who runs "Beyond Victoriana," and Mark Oshiro of "Mark Reads" and "Mark Watches." They're both board members of Con or Bust, an organization that raised money to help fans of color attend conventions. Topics covered include the philosophy and the practice behind Con or Bust, Diana and Mark's congoing experiences, racism in both physical and digital fandom spaces, and why why cons should care about appealing to a broader group of attendees. They also discover the one show that Flourish's very liberal parents and Mark's very conservative ones would allow them both to watch.

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