In this episode, Tiana Elame, EnvAns podcast host connects with Perri Kramer, a dedicated leader who has spent her entire career working to build healthier, more sustainable food systems. Perri believes that good, high-quality food should bring both joy and well-being—and she has committed her life to making that belief real for communities everywhere.Her journey spans nearly every corner of the food ecosystem:—from grocery stores and restaurants,—to supporting food entrepreneurs,—to transforming school lunch programs,—to working within the charitable food sector to ensure access for all.Perri brings a rare combination of hands-on experience, operational insight, and deep compassion. In our conversation, she shares what she’s learned along the way, what keeps her committed to this work, and what she sees as the most promising opportunities for building a sustainable, resilient food future.If you care about food, community health, or creating systems that actually work for people, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.

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