Listen "Dregs #14 Unlocking Creativity: Psychedelics, Ego, and Divorcing Art from Outcome"
Episode Synopsis
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Summary
In this episode of Dregs of Wisdom, Andrew interviews Sawyer Hurwitz, an augmented reality collage artist and documentary film director. They discuss topics such as CIA operation Midnight Climax, the objective of the CIA operation, and Sawyer's documentaries on psychedelics. Sawyer shares insights on the therapeutic benefits of psychedelics, the research being done on their efficacy, and the development of new compounds. They also delve into Sawyer's creative process as an artist and his exploration of archetypes and gender in his artwork. Sawyer Hurwitz discusses the importance of identity and the freedom to express oneself. They emphasize the need to detach from rigid definitions of self and explore different aspects of identity. They also highlight the value of transgressive affirmation in breaking free from repressive norms. Sawyer shares their journey of finding their creative process through collage and the lessons they learned about surrendering ego and being present. They offer advice for artists, emphasizing the importance of divorcing art from outcome-based thinking and engaging with it as a form of lovemaking. They also share personal stories of self-discovery and the realization that one's path may not align with societal expectations.
Takeaways
CIA operation Midnight Climax was a real operation conducted by the CIA to study the effects of LSD on non-consenting individuals.
Psychedelics have shown tremendous therapeutic benefits in treating conditions such as PTSD, depression, and addiction.
Research is being done to develop new compounds that have the positive benefits of psychedelics with diminished psychoactive effects.
Sawyer Hurwitz's creative process as an artist involves exploration, play, and the use of collage to delve into personal and collective unconscious themes.
Sawyer's artwork explores archetypes and challenges sex-specific traits, highlighting the fluidity of gender identities. Detaching from rigid definitions of self allows for exploration and personal growth.
Transgressive affirmation can be a powerful tool in breaking free from repressive norms.
Surrendering ego and being present are essential in the creative process.
Dissociating art from outcome-based thinking allows for a more authentic and fulfilling creative experience. Personal stories and experiences can lead to self-discovery and a reevaluation of one's path.
Chapters
00:00 Sawyer Hurwitz and CIA Operation Midnight Climax
03:30 Documentaries on Psychedelics
07:10 Serotonin, Psychedelic Serotegenic Drugs, and Psychedelic Doctorates
12:55 Efficacy of Psychedelics in Mental Health, PTSD, Cancer Patients, Smoking Cessation, Etc.
22:07 Creative Exploration of the Subconscious Through Loose Image Association and Archetypes
27:45 Identities as Artists. Gender and Queerness.
33:11 Healing Your Relationship to the Creative Process
38:39 Advice for Artists: Separating Ego from the Creative Process
42:20 Technique as a Lovemaking Process
46:40 Economics of Art & Capitalism
47:37 Divorcing Art from Outcome
49:40 How Being Expelled helped Sawyer find his Dharma
56:50 It's ok to "Fuck up"
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