If the COVID-19 pandemic has created a mental health challenge for people without debilitating addictions, what it is like for a recovering alcoholic?Michael Buckenberger joins Jay to discuss how he's navigated a world filled with Zoom Happy Hours and a culture that has accepted heavier alcohol use as a necessary side effect of dealing with a pandemic. Michael shares his strategies for mental wellness and the two friends and former co-workers share how their very different backgrounds and perspectives strengthen their relationship.

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