Nico Vassilakis, a well known visual poet now living in the Bronx, talks about his vispoetic life, his deep connection to alphabets and the characters therein, and wonders, as he always does, whether we have made it to the historical end of visual poetry. The episode includes a sound poetry performance of part of Öyvind Fahlström’s “Nyarsklockorna” by Nico and the host Geof Huth. We end the episode, after its apparent close, with an improvisational sound poem we call “Juggadugga.”

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