Charles Payne and Olivia Phillips join us to explore the evolving relationship between CISOs and BISOs, examining how business-focused security leadership is transforming cybersecurity from a technical function to a strategic business enabler.• BISOs serve as the "Swiss army knife" of the CISO, bringing deeper business knowledge to security decisions• The BISO role bridges the gap between technical security requirements and business objectives• Both guests agree BISOs are well-positioned to become future CISOs due to their business acumen• Quantifying security risks in financial terms changes board-level conversations (e.g., a $50K fix preventing a $6M loss)• Business silos create hidden security costs when departments purchase redundant tools without coordination• Transitioning from technical to strategic leadership requires learning to delegate and trust team members• Strategic security leadership means focusing on business outcomes rather than getting lost in technical details• AI will likely reshape junior security roles but also create opportunities for professional growthConnect with our guests on LinkedIn: Olivia Phillips (#simplyolivia) and Charles Payne (#NYLCharlesPayne). Subscribe to the Cybernomics newsletter and YouTube channel for more insights on how security and business intersect.Josh's LinkedIn

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