In this episode, I talk with Ephraim Lerner and Shane Leaning, the co-authors of Change Starts Here. Our conversation focuses on human-centered ways to think about organizational change in education. Ephraim and Shane share how they’ve adapted the double diamond model into an eight-stage framework: Connect, Discover, Define, Align, Develop, Learn, Deliver, and Sustain.We spend time looking at how each stage works in practice, with questions and strategies that can guide meaningful conversations. Throughout, we emphasize the importance of psychological safety, curiosity, collaboration, and emotional engagement, as well as the value of learning from diverse perspectives.Thank you for being a part of our community.Feedback: We love hearing from you! Leave us a rating or comment to let us know what you think.Stay Connected: Follow our podcast for more episodes packed with insights and inspiration.Learn more about the TLC 2025:www.tlc-conference.comLearn more about the Coaching Accreditation Program:https://www.instructionalcoaching.com/coaching-accreditation-program/

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