Listen "John Churchill on Co-Creating the Third Attractor"
Episode Synopsis
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.This series of conversations explores that possibility.While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.Daniela is speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.John Churchill, was Born in London, Dr. John Churchill’s lifelong focus has been on psycho-spiritual development, Integral theory, contemplative studies, Western Esotericism, and Mahayana Buddhism. As a young man, he received the esoteric Planetary Dharma transmissions that would later unfold as his contribution to Fourth Turning teachings.Formerly a Buddhist monk at Samye Ling Monastery in Scotland, John spent 15 years training in “Great Seal” meditation under Dr. Daniel P. Brown. He is also a founding member of Ken Wilber’s Integral Institute.For 25 years, John has been developing the Fourth Turning Planetary Dharma, including a redesigned Nine Stages of Calm-Staying and the somatic path Embodying the Open Ground, integrating meditation, psychodynamic healing, and adult development.He holds a Doctorate in Clinical Psychology from William James College and is a practitioner of Traditional Chinese Medicine. Married to Nicole since 2000, they share two teenagers and three dogs.https://www.planetarydharma.com/karunamandala.orgDaniela Bomatter is a Swiss-born former software engineer and business leader who rose through various leadership positions to become CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland. After a successful career in technology and public service, her life took a transformative turn through the encounter with spiritual teacher Andrew Cohen and his teaching of Evolutionary Enlightenment.As a co-founder of Manifest Nirvana, Daniela has been a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment, living, studying, and working closely with Andrew Cohen from 2008 until his passing in March 2025. Her work continues to carry forward the essence of his vision—an awakening that is not separate from evolution itself.She now lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, where she founded and runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, a vibrant hub for spiritual practice, dialogue, and conscious community within a small sustainable village. From there, she also facilitates the activities of the online ashram (manifest-nirvana.com), offering courses, dialogues, and retreats dedicated to evolutionary spirituality, collective awakening and cultural change.In 2025, Daniela published her first book, The Viratya Myth Begins—a mythic-visionary narrative exploring the next step of human evolution through a fusion of story, philosophy, and consciousness inquiry.
ZARZA We are Zarza, the prestigious firm behind major projects in information technology.