Listen "20. Discussing Developmental Frameworks & Jordan Peterson, Robert Kegan, Jean Piaget"
Episode Synopsis
This chat was inspired by the "Robert Kegan's 'In Over Our Heads' ".
Here is a summary of Kegan's framework:
- Stage 1 — Impulsive mind (early childhood)
- Stage 2 — Imperial mind (adolescence, 6% of adult population)
- Stage 3 — Socialized mind (58% of the adult population)
- Stage 4 — Self-Authoring mind (35% of the adult population)
- Stage 5 — Self-Transforming mind (1% of the adult population)
The framework made by Duncan:
- L1: I'm not aware of of the rules & principles of the stories that permeate the society I live in
- L2: I am aware are of the socio cultural story and passively or actively live by the principles
- L3: I have pushed back on some parts of the standard story. Ie I am starting to decide what works for me
- L4: I am aware of multiple stories (ie multiple different doctrines, not just the main prevalent one of the society I live in today) and I pick and choose the parts from multiple doctrines that work for me
- L5: I create my own values. Ie I am not just taking from existing doctrines, I’m creating my own values to augment existing values I have actively chosen
- L6: I help others move up L1-L5.
Contact us at [email protected]
Here is a summary of Kegan's framework:
- Stage 1 — Impulsive mind (early childhood)
- Stage 2 — Imperial mind (adolescence, 6% of adult population)
- Stage 3 — Socialized mind (58% of the adult population)
- Stage 4 — Self-Authoring mind (35% of the adult population)
- Stage 5 — Self-Transforming mind (1% of the adult population)
The framework made by Duncan:
- L1: I'm not aware of of the rules & principles of the stories that permeate the society I live in
- L2: I am aware are of the socio cultural story and passively or actively live by the principles
- L3: I have pushed back on some parts of the standard story. Ie I am starting to decide what works for me
- L4: I am aware of multiple stories (ie multiple different doctrines, not just the main prevalent one of the society I live in today) and I pick and choose the parts from multiple doctrines that work for me
- L5: I create my own values. Ie I am not just taking from existing doctrines, I’m creating my own values to augment existing values I have actively chosen
- L6: I help others move up L1-L5.
Contact us at [email protected]
More episodes of the podcast Cloud Streaks
90. Is excess empathy a big problem? Mentioning Jon Haight, Nassim Taleb, Sam Altman & more
08/07/2025
87. Helpful Support (Independence) vs Harmful Support (Dependence). Mentioning Jon Haidt, Kim Scott,
07/01/2025
86. Things we wish we knew before 18. Mentioning Naval, Alain de Botton, Esther Perel & More
19/10/2024
85. The Rightification Of The Left. Mentioning Elon, Marc Andressen, David Sacks, Tim Urban & more
16/09/2024
84. Should we ban social media for kids? Mentioning Jon Haidt, Seymour Skinner, Marc Andreessen...
07/07/2024
ZARZA We are Zarza, the prestigious firm behind major projects in information technology.