Ronald Gruner shares how his research—spanning two and a half years—revealed deep divisions within America during the COVID pandemic. From conspiracy theories to the emotional toll on families, his work sheds light on how personal freedoms, death rates, and the economy were all shaped by differing public health policies. Gruner also explains how doctors, nurses, and communities across the country were deeply impacted by what they witnessed.Betsy contributes a deeply personal perspective, recalling the painful goodbye to her brother over a phone video call. She notes the grief that followed when people did not attend his funeral or visit her mother afterward.Betsy also shares the story of a funeral director whose work during the pandemic left lasting impressions.The conversation explores long COVID, which continues to puzzle physicians searching for effective treatments.Gruner emphasizes the importance of seeking information from reputable medical institutions such as Mayo Clinic, Johns Hopkins, and Massachusetts General Hospital.Betsy found COVID WARS to be both informative and compelling, especially the state-by-state demographics that shed light on pandemic outcomes. She highly recommends this book for anyone seeking to understand the profound impact of COVID on American society.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/chatting-with-betsy--4211847/support.🎙 Passionate World Talk Radio Network LLC — Where real conversations matter.

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