In this episode of Built to Last, Levi and Colby sit down with Marina Byezhanova, a globally recognized personal branding expert, entrepreneur, and speaker, for a deeply candid and energizing conversation about identity, growth, and what it means to show up as a leader.From navigating business failures in public, to building thought leadership that transcends a company name, Marina shares hard-earned insights that resonate with anyone who's wrestled with visibility, reinvention, or the pressure to be “the face” of a business. The conversation touches on the power of personal brand strategy, how to lead without burning out, the evolving role of AI in marketing, and why stacking joy is one of Marina’s guiding principles.It’s a fast-paced, vulnerable, and insightful exchange. What starts as a professional conversation quickly becomes a powerful connection between peers building businesses with meaning.Links and Resources MentionedMarina on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bmarina/Marina’s personal branding agency: https://www.brandofaleader.com/Entrepreneurs’ Organization (EO): https://eonetwork.org/Ryan Holiday, Ego is the Enemy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju8WoRcR4QoQuotes Worth Sharing“You didn’t build a personal brand. You were the spokesperson for your business—and that’s a big difference.”“I only say yes to things that give me energy. If it drains me, I delegate or delete.”“When you build your brand right, it will always be bigger than your business.”“We are often building visibility, but if we fail, we fail in public.”“Stacking is my life philosophy—bringing my whole life together, instead of splitting it apart.”Segment Breakdown with Timestamps00:00 – Meet Marina: Life, Travel & LeadershipIntroduction to Marina’s story: Ukrainian roots, Canadian immigration, global workHow she started Brand of a Leader and built a remote-first teamHer passion for EO and thought leadership06:30 – Leading Without BurnoutMarina’s hack: only doing what energizes herDelegation as an act of self-awarenessFamily, parenting, and the joy-centered life design model14:45 – Finding Your People (and Yourself)How EO helped Marina feel like she finally “fit” as an entrepreneurThe impact of peer groups on personal and professional growthRedefining success and shedding outdated friendships22:00 – The Real Personal BrandWhy most people confuse personal branding with just being visibleHow to separate yourself from your businessThe difference between being a thought leader vs. a company spokesperson33:40 – AI, Identity & the Future of VisibilityHow Brand of a Leader embraced AI as a co-creatorThe rise of Answer Engine Optimization (AEO)Why storytelling and emotion will always matter more than tech44:30 – Leadership Through War & HardshipMarina’s deeply personal account of the war in UkraineHow her EO Ukraine forum became a source of strength and perspectiveHiring Ukrainian talent as a meaningful business decision56:00 – Making Decisions Through JoyWhy fun is Marina’s true northLessons from speaking, stacking, and leading high-stakes EO eventsHow aligning to joy creates more energy, clarity, and success1:06:00 – Thought Leadership and the Power of PerspectiveWhat makes someone truly stand out in a crowded spaceWhy “just post” is the worst advice for foundersHow real introspection creates authentic differentiation

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