This week we continue our talk with long time youth pastor Rich Kifer. Rich shares some of the wisdom he has learned, sometimes the hard way, as his spiritual journey has taken a number of twists and turns through the years. Along the way we discuss some of the litmus tests Christians tend to judge orthodox purity, the state of Christian and faith based movies, as well as advice Rich has for young people who feel they have a "call to ministry" Get ready to go Beyond the Pale with Rich Kifer Show Notes: 1:31 Intro- Steve & Tammy discuss Chinese Sichuan food and American politics 19:58- Discussing "Christian Movies" 29:36- Rethinking "salvation" 33:41- Turning "Good News" into "Terrible News" 40:51- Why do we "obey" Christ? 1:03:54- Advice for young people going into ministry

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