What has life taught him? To play the hand he is dealt. Falling short and ultimately developing skills to go around it, as well as learning to survive, is exactly what we need to thrive. Following the release of Never Give Up," Pat Ziemer joined us on the podcast to discuss his take on resilience and his chapter in the book. Pats chapter entitled "The Power to Overcome," shares his personal and professional experiences that have led him to appreciate the power of persistence and resilience. So sit back, relax, and enjoy another enlightening conversation from one of the brightest minds in business.

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