In this episode of Better Than Not, I am joined by returning guest Payman Kianpour, founder of Kepstrom. In this conversation we explore the intricate relationship between design and human emotions, emphasizing the importance of curiosity, love, and respect in collaborative processes. The discussion delves into what Payman called - forming, storming, norming, and performing - highlighting how navigating the storming phase can lead to better outcomes in both design and life. The episode also touches on the significance of managing expectations and the role of questions in fostering understanding and innovation. To find our more about Payman, you can find him at www.kepstrum.com.

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