Up in the air

12/11/2025 27 min
Up in the air

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Episode Synopsis

We examine how the longest shutdown in the US history has affected the airline industry and hear from stranded passengers and furloughed air traffic controllers.
And, on day two of the COP climate conference in Brazil, we talk a South African minister on what it will take to help poorer nations fund the transition to clean energy.