Continuing the discussion of his career, Grandpa Z opens up about the value of community and the struggles of maintaining a stable family life in the midst of a position that required him to move between states every few years. Though they were comfortable financially, consistent support systems were tough to come by for the Zmurk family during this time and he reflects on this often. Eventually they settled back in Ohio where they stayed for 20 years, and in ‘94 Grandpa took advantage of an opportunity to retire early-but shares how he found plenty of ways to fill his time serving others. 
 
Special thanks to Monica Giorgio for writing our show notes and to Kevin Farkas for audio engineering.

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