The pandemic brought a dramatic increase in the number of people visiting Arizona’s most remote wild spaces. As a result, federal land managers are working to make it easier to visit these far-flung vistas and mountain ranges. Is there a downside to this? Are we loving our pubic lands to death? Morgan Loew and Amy Cutler hear from Scott Brady of The Overland Journal, as well as Laiken Jordahl from the Center for Biological Diversity, and Gilbert Zermeno, a producer and photographer, who’s visited hundreds of Arizona’s wildest places.

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