What does a collaborative approach to security testing look like? What does it take to tackle an entire attack class as opposed to fixing a bunch of bugs? If we can shift from vulnerability mitigation to vulnerability elimination, then appsec would be able to demonstrate some significant wins -- and they need a partnership with DevOps teams in order to do this successfully.   Segment Resources https://blog.trailofbits.com/   Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw178

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