In this episode, Roy and Phil have a discussion with Ben of Unseen.Diversity! Ben is an incredibly passionate keeper who specializes in greenhouse systems for both herpetofauna and small mammals. In this episode we discuss his backstory, including his past experience of being involved with illicit wildlife trade, why he utilizes greenhouse systems, where he sees potential for innovation in herpetoculture, and a LOT more. This conversation is layered, profound, and not to be missed! Have a listen! And please like, subscribe, and share this episode, if you feel so inclined. To offer direct support to the show, please consider subscribing to our Patreon (https://patreon.com/projectherpetoculture) and have a look at our generous sponsors!

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