In this episode, Johanna sits down with Hayley from Therapist Rising to talk about the chaotic, courageous, and often life-altering path of self-discovery especially when chronic health, burnout, and big professional pivots are in the mix. She discusses her personal journey as a Clinical Psychologist with burnout and how she found herself pivoting to creating a successful business supporting therapists who wish to diversify their offerings. From redefining what success looks like to setting boundaries that honour both ambition and wellbeing, this conversation is a must-listen for anyone feeling stuck, exhausted, or called to do things differently.🌟 What We CoverWhy burnout isn’t a failure, it's feedbackHow chronic illness can disrupt (and reshape) professional identityThe power of small steps in creating big changeThe sunk cost fallacy and why it keeps so many therapists stuckWhy reframing, not resisting, change can be the key to freedom🔑 Key TakeawaysSelf-discovery starts by knowing what doesn’t workYour health and your goals can (and should) coexistImpact doesn’t have to come at the cost of exhaustionBoundaries are a form of radical self-respectThe "messy middle" is part of every meaningful transition💻 Find Hayley & ResourcesCheck out ⁠therapistrising.com⁠ for training, resources, and support for professionals ready to disrupt the traditional therapy model and do business differently.You can get in touch with ADHD Her Way podcast by:- Contacting via email: [email protected] Visit our site: ⁠www.adhdherway.com⏱️ Chapters00:00 – Introduction03:01 – Disrupting the Mental Health System05:16 – Rethinking Business Models in Therapy10:54 – Burnout and Sustainability in Allied Health16:19 – Taking Responsibility for Change21:05 – Navigating Career Transitions26:41 – Reframing Identity and Values32:54 – Embracing Change and Boundaries39:01 – The Power of Saying No47:30 – Working with Chronic Health53:32 – Neurodiversity in Professional Spaces56:22 – Balancing Creativity and Structure

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