Dr. Karel Liem (1935-2009) was the best of the best as ichthyologist, teacher, prankster and all-around good guy. Thankfully I managed to include him in "Flock of Dodos" where he told about having had 8 bypasses on his heart. Fisheries biologist Julie Claussen (and ABT course advisor) and Liem student Dr. Dana Ono join me to discuss whether there are any other scientists who have more fun than fish biologists. Also with us is co-host Dr. Jen Martin who returns, post-COVID, to join us from Melbourne Uni. Liem Tribute Part One https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M3zYctu-Wc Liem Tribute Part Two https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X94cD8mCC-Y Randy Olson https://twitter.com/ABTagenda​ Randy's Blog: http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/ Jen Martin https://twitter.com/scidocmartin https://www.instagram.com/scidocmartin/ Science Communication at the University of Melbourne: https://blogs.unimelb.edu.au/science-communication/ Jen's Blog: https://espressoscience.com/

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