In this episode of A Complicated Story, Jakob and Johanne reconnect after navigating the challenge of living in different countries with mismatched school holidays. They catch up on recent endeavours —Jakob’s time in Stockholm, updates on the It’s Complicated conference agenda, and reflections on what "manifestos" mean to them. Tune in for thoughtful conversations, personal insights, and a behind-the-scenes look at their ongoing work with It’s Complicated.

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