teZa and Carter Lord, cohosts and life partners of 3 decades, are freshly back from two weeks of van camping in Southeast Arizona. They're really excited about the conservation message so beautifully given by scientist Diana Beresford-Kroeger in her most recent book: To Speak for the TREES. Join their enthusiasm as they discuss how every conversation needs to focus on Spirit. Then, everything changes. Anyone who forgets this will face challenges and difficulties and never find true contentment. see tezalord.com and carterlord.com for more about the hosts. Be well.

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