A software engineer reverse-engineers the Book of Mormon using scientific methods to build the most complete Zarahemla geography model ever proposed—offering powerful evidence for its historicity and Joseph Smith’s divine callingIn this episode, we sit down with Jay Mackley, a retired software engineer who has spent the last several years applying computer science, database logic, and reverse engineering to tackle one of the most debated questions in Latter-day Saint scholarship: the geography of the Book of Mormon. If you’ve ever wondered whether there’s a map embedded in the sacred text—or whether Joseph Smith could have possibly made it all up—this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.Jay walks us through his Zarahemla Model, a highly detailed and scientifically structured framework that uses the earliest Book of Mormon text, GPS data, topography, and hundreds of textual relationship constraints to build a geography that aligns perfectly with the internal consistency of the scripture. As he explains, one out of every three verses in the Book of Mormon references geography, and when you track all 142 named locations, journeys, and battles—something only a programmer with his skills could pull off—you begin to see patterns that validate the book’s divine origin.We also explore what this model means for the future. Could artificial intelligence take this data and expand it even further? Is this approach the key to preparing for the coming forth of the sealed portion? Jay believes so—and his testimony has only grown stronger through this meticulous, sacred work.If you’re someone who values both spiritual conviction and intellectual integrity, this episode will speak to you. It will not only challenge your assumptions but also strengthen your faith in the Book of Mormon’s truth and the prophetic mission of Joseph Smith.Jay's Website:  https://zchm.theholyscriptures.info/Watch this Episode on YouTube:  https://youtu.be/TR09Q_fnF2cLearn more about our sponsor Families Getting Help:  https://familiesgettinghelp.com/Watch our podcast episode with Erin & Mark From Families Getting Help:  https://youtu.be/SvdN0tXP2C4 Learn more about our sponsor Families Getting Help:  https://familiesgettinghelp.com/Contact Us, Support Our Sponsors, and enter our Giveaways at: https://www.zionstreaming.com/links/ FOLLOW & ENGAGE▶️ YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@ZionMedia_🎥 TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@zionstreaming📸 Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/zionstreaming/🐦 X / Twitter:https://x.com/zionstreaming Zion Media is a Pro–Latter-day Saint platform.The views shared by guests, hosts, and contributors may not reflect the official doctrine or policies of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints or any affiliated organization.We promote respectful dialogue, even when tackling deep or controversial topics.

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