Conversation 10: Firstborns and runaways

07/11/2025 58 min Episodio 8
Conversation 10: Firstborns and runaways

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Desiree and Tauni join us to discuss the chaos that was being the oldests. We talk early days, running away, cousin Julie, and take a moment at the end to listen to one of Travis' favorite poems -- "In Just" by e e cummings. 

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