Natalie and Shanté return to tackle a question that’s been popping up across boardrooms, HR departments, and Slack messages: “Now what?”Post-2020, many organizations sprinted into action after George Floyd’s murder—launching DEI task forces, writing internal memos, and hosting webinars. But two and a half years later, leaders are fatigued, teams are skeptical, and progress feels stagnant. So what’s next?In this episode, Natalie and Shanté offer a candid and practical conversation about how companies can reset DEI expectations without giving up on the work.What You’ll Learn in This Episode: • Why DEI isn’t a moment—it’s a movement2020 wasn’t the finish line. It was the starting pistol. If your strategy hasn’t evolved since then, it’s time for a reset. • How to identify whether you even have a ‘problem’Hint: You can’t measure what you haven’t defined. Step one is getting honest about where you are and where you want to be. • Why data matters—but it’s not just numbersQuantitative AND qualitative data give you the whole picture. Have you actually asked your people what they’re experiencing? • The myth of one-and-doneDEI is not a checklist. Natalie and Shante break down how to approach the work with an iterative, Agile mindset—including setting clear, measurable goals and revisiting them regularly. • The role of leadership transparency and authenticityYour comms team can’t write you into trust. Today’s workforce expects vulnerability, honesty, and human connection—from the C-suite down. • Why volunteer DEI committees aren’t enoughGood intentions don’t replace true expertise. If your team is working without strategic guidance, they’ll likely burn out or stall. You need a plan—and a pro. • The Serena Williams EffectWhat do we mean? Tune in for a fascinating cultural parallel that explains why today’s employees demand visibility, not just vision statements.Key Takeaways: • A pause doesn’t mean stop. It means evaluate, reflect, and reset. • Every DEI initiative needs aligned, transparent goals, and the team needs to know them. • Authenticity isn’t optional. Your people are watching how you lead, not just what you say. • If you’re not sure what to do next, it’s okay to say so. But it’s not okay to stay stuck.Follow & Connect with us:- Follow Natalie Norfus on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalienorfus/. - Follow Shante Gordon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shantegordon/. - We’ve led hundreds of audits, assessments, and people strategy engagements, and we’d love to help your organization. Book a consultation with The Norfus Firm: https://thenorfusfirm.com/. - Follow What’s the DEIL on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whatsthedeil/. - Follow What’s the DEIL on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@whatsthedeil. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and leave a review! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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