In Part 2 of our burnout series, we’re digging into a truth many leaders quietly carry: you can’t support your team if you’re running on empty.Shante and Natalie return to explore what burnout really looks like from the top. This isn’t about hustle culture or generic self-care tips—it’s a candid, real-world conversation about the emotional weight leaders carry, and why acknowledging that weight is not a weakness, but a powerful first step toward sustainable leadership.We talk about the loneliness that often accompanies leadership roles, the masks leaders wear, and the very human need for space, support, and connection. You’ll hear insights on: • Why self-awareness is the gateway to managing burnout as a leader • The “reality TV effect” and how your team always sees more than you think • Why vulnerability doesn’t mean oversharing—and what thoughtful transparency actually looks like • Creating space for honest check-ins and the energy exchange within teams • How burnout manifests when we pretend everything is fine (and what to do instead) • Why discomfort often precedes real growth, and how to lead through itLeaders at all levels—from emerging managers to seasoned executives—will find themselves in this episode. If you’ve ever felt like you’re running on fumes while trying to lead with strength, this one’s for you.💡 Key takeaway: Burnout isn’t just a personal issue—it’s a leadership issue. The more honest you are with yourself, the more human and impactful you can be with others.Follow & Connect with us:Follow Natalie Norfus on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalienorfus/. Follow Shante Gordon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shantegordon/. We’ve led hundreds of audits, assessments, and people strategy engagements, and we’d love to help your organization. Book a consultation with The Norfus Firm: https://thenorfusfirm.com/. Follow What’s the DEIL on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whatsthedeil/. Follow What’s the DEIL on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@whatsthedeil. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and leave a review! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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