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Episode Synopsis
Welcome to the debut episode of What’s the DEIL, a podcast powered by The Norfus Firm that gets into the honest conversations about Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Leadership (DEIL). In this kickoff episode, co-hosts Natalie Norfus and Shanté Gordon ask a provocative question: Is DEI dead? Not because the work is over, but because it can’t continue as a siloed initiative. It’s time to make it the fabric of how we lead.Drawing from nearly two decades of combined experience in employment law, corporate leadership, wellness, and DEI strategy, Natalie and Shanté share:- The fatigue and frustration organizations feel post-2020- Why DEI efforts are fading (and why they shouldn’t)- How the lack of self-reflection among leaders is stalling progress- The difference between performative action and sustained change- Why DEI should die… as a separate department—and be reborn as part of everyday business strategyYou’ll also learn why shared language matters, how to set better expectations around DEI timelines, and why leaders who avoid doing their own inner work will never see outer change.Takeaways:• DEI doesn’t have an end date—it’s a long-term business commitment.• Leaders must do the self-work to lead inclusively.• DEI strategies fail when they’re treated as side projects instead of core priorities.• If your recruiting strategy needs a DEI lens, it’s still just one recruiting strategy.• Inclusion can’t happen without integration.This episode isn’t just for DEI professionals. It’s for the decision-makers, the skeptics, and anyone wondering what “doing the work” really looks like.Follow & Connect with us:- Follow Natalie Norfus on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalienorfus/. - Follow Shante Gordon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shantegordon/. - We’ve led hundreds of audits, assessments, and people strategy engagements, and we’d love to help your organization. Book a consultation with The Norfus Firm: https://thenorfusfirm.com/. - Follow What’s the DEIL on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whatsthedeil/. - Follow What’s the DEIL on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@whatsthedeil. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and leave a review! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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