In which Dan chats with Dr. Gary Stager, teacher, professor, author, and consultant (among other things) and a true constructivist. Gary is the founder of the Constructing Modern Knowledge summer institute for educators and the co-author of Invent To Learn – Making, Tinkering, and Engineering in the Classroom.Dan and Gary talk about Gary's dear friend, the late Seymour Papert, and the meaning of a computer in a classroom, phones in schools, Gary's experience teaching in a prison in Maine, and why reading from actual books is so vital.As always I welcome comments and questions on BlueSky @dankearney and on Instagram @BigIdeaEdMentioned in the episode:Invent to Learn: Making, Tinkering, and Engineering in the Classroom by Gary StagerTwenty Things to Do with a Computer Forward 50 by Gary StagerThe Children's Machine: Rethinking School in the Age of the Computer by Seymour PapertSeymour Papert Obituary from MIT NewsTorture in a Maine Prison from Prison Legal NewsMathworlds, the Substack from Dan MeyerFrom Lunchboxes to Laptops: How Maine Went One-to-One by Audrey WatersThe Anxious Generation by Jonathan HaidtThe Most Compelling Argument Against Tech in Schools from Haidt's After Babel SubstackMusic: SPEAKEASY STRUTroyalty free Music by Giorgio Di Campo for @FreeSound Music http://freesoundmusic.eu

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