In this episode, Katarina and Patrick sit with a tender, deeply honest reflection on spiritual life in survival mode. Inspired by Jason Gaboury’s luminous piece, Spiritual Practice When You’re Just Trying to Survive, they explore the quiet truth that prayer often begins where our strength ends.3 AM wakefulness.Fear we can’t reason away.Thoughts we can’t silence.The impossibility of focus.And the smallest, most vulnerable turning toward God — sometimes just three whispered words.Together, they talk about what prayer really looks like when life feels overwhelming, why God meets us in our actual condition rather than our ideal one, and how the bare minimum becomes its own sacred practice. This is a soulful conversation about honesty, compassion, and the gentle presence that holds us even in our exhausted, fragmented moments. Jason’s original piece can be found here

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