In this conversation, Gary Crawford addresses the issue of complacency within today's church, emphasizing the need for genuine engagement with faith and the importance of preaching truth. He discusses how many congregations have become apathetic, merely going through the motions without a true desire for spiritual growth. Gary calls for pastors to confront sin and challenge their congregations to take their faith seriously, rather than simply seeking comfort and affirmation. He highlights the role of the heart's posture in worship and the necessity of hard truths in preaching.

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