When you've had a decades-long career, and eventually reach the point when you want to figure out what's next, what do you do? You write a book! And that is exactly what our guest, Dan Roche, decided to do. With a 20+-year career consulting for the Federal Government, Non-Profits, NGO's, and Public Services, Dan devoted his attention and energy into taking all of that knowledge and packaging it up into his first book, a consumable and highly entertaining guide titled, "The Total Beginner’s Handbook for Doing Business with the Government". We discuss how this idea came about, why this was the right time to do it, and what he hopes people can learn from it. We also discuss how the editing process is often more arduous than the writing process, how starting without an outline sometimes allows for the most creativity, and why betting on oneself is always a good idea.  Drinks: Rogue Ales Dead Guy Ale, Deschutes Brewery Fresh Squeezed IPA, Champion Brewing Company Cavalier Lager Links: https://danroche.com https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BLG2PQG7/

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