Joel and Travis discuss how Jesus and Socrates—perhaps the two greatest teachers of virtue in history—received some negative reviews on their teaching styles, but also transformed history. What specifically about their teaching both fostered virtue and aggravated so many people? Strangely, it was likely the same element of their teaching that makes them more difficult to understand than what they seem and to many, really annoying. And better at teaching virtue than any of us. Why is teaching virtue so difficult, annoying, and inspiring? How is it different than normal teaching? We explore that topic here.

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