On this episode Sports Writers Jessica Luther and Kavitha Davidson joined to discuss their new book "Loving Sports When They Don't Love You Back" and how it came to be (2:10). They also discuss their own difficulties of loving sports amongst the immoral things those sports/events have to offer (24:58). DeVon also expresses his gratitude because he gave a statement for the book, which is a first for him (33:41) They discuss their podcasts and what it means to their careers as Jessica co-hosts the "Burn It All Down" feminist sports podcast, Kavitha hosts "The Lead" which The Athletic's national daily sports news podcast (44:25) and more!

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