In this conversation, Phil and Lisa explore the concept of flow state, particularly in the context of facilitation and training. They discuss personal experiences with flow, the balance between ability and challenge, and the role of facilitators in creating an environment conducive to flow. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding individual and group dynamics to enhance engagement and learning outcomes.   Facilitators play a crucial role in creating flow for participants. Personal experiences can significantly influence the perception of flow. Boredom and apathy can arise from low challenge in a group setting. High challenge with low ability can lead to frustration and disengagement. Designing activities that promote flow requires understanding group dynamics. Intrinsic motivation is key to maintaining engagement in learning environments. Facilitators should model flow to inspire participants. Challenge by choice allows individuals to find their own balance of ability and challenge. Reflection on past experiences can inform future facilitation strategies. Connect with Lisa - [email protected] Connect with Phil; email - [email protected] instagram - @verticalplaypen Music and sound effects - epidemicsound.com Ted-Ed Flow State video - https://www.ted.com/talks/ted_ed_how_to_enter_flow_state?subtitle=en  

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