"It's not about governing, it's about destroying government." Another government shutdown looms as members of the Republican-controlled House refuse to come to the negotiating table despite the urgings of Speaker Kevin McCarthy, is there anything they actually want? Joe Biden has become the first US president to walk a picket line in support of United Auto Workers, regaining some of the union credentials lost during last year's rail workers' strike. Also discussing the latest on Trump, the Hollywood Writers' Strike, net neutrality, and El Niño.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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