You’re exhausted. Your team doesn’t seem to care. And by the time you drag yourself home, your wife and kids get whatever’s left—which isn’t much. You keep thinking if you just push harder, grind longer, hit the next milestone, something will finally click and make this worth it. But what if hustle isn’t the answer?Mark and Joel share stories about construction bosses bringing their crews to prayer breakfasts, Thursday morning biscuits with employees, and leaders who made one shift in how they saw their work—and everything changed. Not their strategy. Not their goals. Something simpler that’s been right there the whole time.They’ll reveal why some business owners find deep fulfillment while others stay exhausted and empty, and what actually makes the difference.If you’re tired of working this hard and feeling this hollow, this conversation might show you what you’ve been missing.

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