Beth and Joey compare notes about the way depression feels for each of them. (This episode was recorded several weeks ago, before Joey's  relapse.) =============== 💌 Sign up for our Safe Home Families email list: http://eepurl.com/hVIAVX =============== Safe Home is created by Joseph Nakao and his moms Beth Syverson and Jan Mabie Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao Cover art by Joseph Nakao, photo by Beth Syverson, with design help from Nina Smith Email questions or comments to Safe Home at [email protected] Find us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube Support Safe Home on Patreon =======================================   RESOURCES: Here are some resources for teens and others who are struggling right now: National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: call 800-273-8255 - 24/7 Lifeline Chat: https://Suicidepreventionlifeline.org/chat - 24/7 Teen Line: call 310-855-HOPE   6-10pm PST  Or text TEEN to 839863  Talk to other trained teens Youthline:  call 877-968-8491   4-10pm PST   Or text Teen2Teen to 839863. Need2Text: text TALK to 38255    24/7     And here are some resources for therapy, coaching, and counseling: Find a Tele-Therapist: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/online-counseling Miguel Rosell - Guided Core Integration: https://miguelrosell.com/ Heather Ross - Life Coaching for Parents of Addicted Teens: https://heatherrosscoaching.com/ ======================================= For those listening to these episodes in order, Joey is still in relapse mode at the time of this episode's publication, but it was recorded about 6 weeks ago while he was still living with Beth and Jan.   TIME STAMPS: 1:19 What is depression for Joey? 2:08 What is depression for Beth? 3:57 Depression to numb out 4:43 Joey's first experiences with depression 6:02 Did depression affect Joey's decision to use substances? 7:06 Drugs as depressants 9:04 How Joey pulls out of a depression cycle 12:47 How Beth pulls out of a depression cycle 13:22 Beth's depression history 17:48 Passive suicidality and suicide attempts 19:38 How psychedelics mixed with Joey's depression 22:40 Depression while sober v while using substances 23:31 Dreaming to deal with depression 28:05 The one thing that helps Beth the most with depression 29:48 What Joey suggests for someone struggling right now --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/safe-home-podcast/message

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