8 years ago today Kelly Thomas was brutally murdered on the streets of Fullerton California by a group of armed thugs. In this episode we discuss some lesser known aspects of police abuse in the USA and what America means to us.  We also go way back to tell a story about the time we were pulled over by police on a felony stop. As you probably know, Southern California was recently hit by some large earthquakes. Stick around for the wrap-up because we share some earthquake stories. Special thanks to Telephon9 for allowing us to feature two of their tracks including their new hit "California". Check them out on twitter, youtube, and find their music on spotify, itunes, and amazon. follow us on twitter @undoctrinated1 instagram undoctrinatedpodcast email us [email protected]

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