In this, our first and very special episode of 2025, the Hadean podcast goes on an adventure of academia to the Spanish city of Cuenca with Erzebet and José Leitão, who, over food and drinks, describe recent discoveries in the understudied field of Portuguese Learned magic. José describes to us the beautiful melancholia of his time doing archival research, the lows and highs of the discovery of long forgotten manuscripts and the story of how he came to make some exceptional findings. They also touch on a broad array of subjects, from historical analysis, to the difficulties in the way in which we categorise types of magical expression through the centuries. You are in for a real treat. For more from José you can find his books through the link below: https://hadean.press/products/book-of-st-cyprian?pr_prod_strat=jac&pr_rec_id=d8018b21a&pr_rec_pid=9510329876821&pr_ref_pid=9550262468949&pr_seq=u

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