Growth isn’t just about moving faster or getting bigger.At some point, every organisation faces a choice:Do we keep optimising what already works, or do we take the harder path of reinventing ourselves?In this conversation, we explore why real growth demands exponential thinking — building systems and people that can scale, creating space for experimentation, and normalising failure as a source of learning rather than fear.From Apple’s supply chain mastery to Google’s culture of curiosity and SpaceX’s approach to failing well, the common thread is clear: growth lives on the other side of discomfort.For leaders and teams navigating constant change, the question isn’t whether the river will get rough — it’s whether we’re willing to learn how to ride it.

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