Welcome to Episode 5 of Trash Talk ♻️In this episode, we sit down with Patrick Serfass, Executive Director of the American Biogas Council, to uncover how biogas went from unknown to unstoppable in the US energy conversation.Patrick shares his unorthodox journey from oceanography and architectural engineering to leading one of the fastest-growing renewable energy sectors in the country. From policy wins to public education, we dive into what it takes to scale an industry most Americans don’t even know exists.We also cover:• Why RNG is dominating new project development• What’s holding the biogas industry back — and how to fix it• How ABC grew from 20 to 400+ member companies• The real carbon math behind biogas vs solar and wind• And why education is the industry’s biggest growth leverMassive thanks to Patrick for sharing his story and bringing clarity to a complex, crucial part of the clean energy future. Enjoy the episode!

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