The first podcast I did with Larry Krohn was years ago, and it sparked a lot of debate around the e-collar.Since then, Larry has completed my Training Without Conflict™ school, and through many conversations we’ve come to realize how much common ground we share. Today, we agree on nearly everything and hold a strong respect for one another.We’ve wanted to do a second podcast for quite some time, and our schedules finally aligned. The result is a 4+ hour conversation covering a wide range of dog training topics.This one isn’t about conflict, it’s about depth, clarity, and experience.

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