When to Pivot, Persevere, or Purge with Josh Barker

01/11/2025 33 min Episodio 3
When to Pivot, Persevere, or Purge with Josh Barker

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Pivoting isn’t failure—it’s progress.In this episode of the City Innovations Podcast, Chris Tromp (COO, City Innovations) talks with Josh Barker (CEO & Founder, City Innovations) about the emotional and strategic realities of changing course, calling it quits, or pivoting. They unpack why failure is a critical part of learning and how focusing on traction first leads to breakthroughs.They discuss:Why pivots don’t equal failureThe role of failure as learningWhen to pivot, persevere, or purgeThe dangers of false summits and the feature mythWhy traction metrics matter more than vanity metrics⏱️ Chapters: (00:00) Welcome and Intro: Chris Tromp and Josh Barker (01:22) Why Founders Struggle with Pivoting (05:34) Failure as Learning and Progress (09:18) Celebrating Learnings, Not Just Wins (14:10) When to Pivot vs. Persevere vs. Purge (19:27) False Summits, Burnout, and the Feature Myth (25:40) Small Pivots vs. Big Pivots: What Works (31:05) Communicating Pivots to Your Team (37:11) Red Flags: When It’s Really Time to Pivot (43:20) Startup Stories: Pivoting with Clients (49:18) Final Thoughts: Traction First and Avoiding Vanity MetricsWant to learn more?Check out our site.https://www.tractionfirstbook.com/

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